New Policy for Photos, Videos, and YT Channels

Discussion in 'Announcements' started by LifeLearner, Apr 21, 2020.

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  1. LunaLovegood

    LunaLovegood original JUNA Helper

    Hey I know this might sound kind of stupid, but does this just apply to real life art or also to digital art? I know a couple artists here mostly do digital and that would save their threads.
     
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  2. c0wg0d

    c0wg0d Master Owner Moderator VIP

    For now it's all art as noted in the original post of this thread. The moderator team is still discussing the possibility of modifying this new policy, and there is no need to remove/delete any of your previously allowed content. Just don't post any new content that doesn't follow the new policy until you hear otherwise from us. Thank you.
     
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  3. TheBigBurger

    TheBigBurger Entitled

    Photos of burgers are ok, but only if they're big.
     
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  4. lardydare

    lardydare King of confusing name changes

    Pictures of business geese should be OK, right?:p
     
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  5. LunaLovegood

    LunaLovegood original JUNA Helper

    Thanks c0w, just wondering :)
     
  6. TheAfkOne

    TheAfkOne Most visits to AFKland daily VIP Helper

    I respect your guys' opinion a lot. I understand and totally agree with the pictures part that there isn't a mechanism for parent approval and the fact that not everyone in the photo consented. I especially agree with the YouTube channel segment. People could change it at any second without moderation because it is out of your hands. I had one, still have it, but I don't post anymore because I lost interest. I understand your viewpoint coming from the art that this is a massive gray area, but I don't think that anyone would make inappropriate for the forums, or the fact that their friends in game don't give their art pictures a thumbs up. Then again I emphasized think, not 100% which is why I see your side of the story. Cars, I understand. License plate, specific details of cars.

    Overall, I respect your opinion. I get the art, the gray areas. Thank you for reading this. (I meant this post as just my personal opinion) and not the facts or the specifics in threads that the staff team went through.

    Thanks for making the Sandlot a safer place.
     
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  7. Z4ckyW4cky

    Z4ckyW4cky Expert

    I don't have a channel so it is fine
     
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  8. Paw_English

    Paw_English OG Trendsetter VIP

    Hey everyone!

    I would like to thank all of the moderators who have worked together to create this new rule to make The Sandlot a safer and better place for young and old kids to play on and enjoy their time! (And adults)

    I understand that some of you think the art rule is unfair, and that’s completely okay to have your own opinion! But I can elaborate a little more on why art is not allowed. :)

    Say that you draw a pony. You worked SO hard on this pony for 2 hours!
    You decide to upload this to the forums! Quick, got to get a picture without checking the background...
    But wait!
    As soon as you post it, you realize there’s a mirror in the background with 555 Sandlot Street on it! That’s your address! And then you are horrified when you see you accidentally signed your FIRST AND LAST name on the pony drawing! This isn’t safe! :O

    Basically, my point is that the moderator team want to prevent this from happening so they created this rule so this wouldn’t be an issue to worry about! ;)
    I hope this helped anyone who was still upset/confused about the no art allowed rule. :)
    -Paw
     
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  9. SupersonicE9

    SupersonicE9 Retro Gamer VIP Helper Elder

    I agree that some of the guidelines needed to be restricted a bit more, but some aspects of the new guidelines seem a bit too unreasonable. In order for the guidelines to serve all of us, they should perhaps be less lenient than previously but less strict than now. I may have not emphasized that enough in my first post since I was focusing more on how loose some of the reasoning was, but there were still a few aspects that need to be addressed and I know it's to make this place safer. We just need to find a balance because we can't lock everything up, nor let everything be entirely open in terms of guidelines.

    I want the Sandlot to be safe, but I feel like the forums went from a moderately secure room with fun activities (hence why I separate it from traditional social media) to one which was entirely covered in three layers of bubblewrap and had seventeen locks/latches on the door. We need guidelines for safety, but they should also be a bit more practical. This elaboration will focus less on reasoning and more on how to find a balance of safety and practicality.

    FACES (& PETS)
    The restriction on faces makes sense because there is tons of gray area involved in these types of pictures. I absolutely agree with the fact that there are safety concerns particularly with this area, but perhaps an emphasis on some of the reasoning specific to this area could help some players. While I'm still on the fence on whether or not it should be open, I did want to suggest some guidelines for IF they could at all be reinstated.
    • Be sure that the background is completely blank in the picture.
    • Watch for reflective surfaces. (I would probably say no cars because they tend to be reflective.)
    • Do not post pictures of yourself with others in the picture.
    • Previous guidelines at the first post when it was viewable would still be in effect.

    ART

    Art tends to contain less gray areas in my opinion, but they should still be addressed, especially since this will affect an entire thread category on the MAIN forums discussion area (meaning General Discussion).
    • (IF captured using a camera) Be sure that nothing else makes it into the background. If it's three-dimensional, be sure to capture it on a non-reflective background.
    • Be sure that if there is a signature that it is COMPLETELY BLOCKED from view. Some people have tried to get rid of the signature with varying results in the past, but my idea is that any signature be fully covered with a solid black box.
    CHANNELS
    I completely understand the video channels aspect because they are technically external links and external links are already discouraged. I don't have any critiques for this area.

    IN-GAME?

    I wanted to add this area as a response to the fact that people are only focusing on safety concerns regarding forums, when, in reality, servers can do some damage in the wrong hands. This is another problem I have with these new guidelines, and how they unfairly rip parts of forums to shreds while I've had a legitimate concern about in-game builds for years.

    What has concerned me perhaps even before becoming a helper was when people would recreate their real-life houses. This doesn't come up regularly, but it has still come up multiple times in the past, once even having two similar representations of the same house made by two related players. (Added note: I don't think any of these builds exist anymore, but the concern is still there.) I've never encountered a problem with anyone trying to put written information about their houses, but knowing roughly what the outside and inside of someone's real house looks like is... weird.

    I don't think there are any other legitimate concerns for in-game right now, but it's concerning how one medium feels much too restricted while the other, still being mostly protected overall, still exists and feels strange not addressing at all. How can we move forward as a community if we have a major imbalance of protection regarding each medium? I used to regard forums as being more lenient and as a great way of being able to talk to my Sandlot friends about upcoming celebrations and being able to efficiently communicate with other members about their (rule-abiding) interests, but it almost seems like some hobbies are being targeted too much. Many people who post art, for instance, happen to be Sandlot helpers who put care into following Sandlot rules and protection guidelines.

    And yes, I know that c0w has stated that these policies may not end up being as strict in the future, but I wanted to add more input and explanation on my viewpoint so that I was more clear on where I stand specifically on each issue. Many other helpers, as well, have found over-the-top restrictions which contradict how we interact in-game, and how strangely stiff these new policies are comparatively to other Sandlot guidelines. Thanks for reading.
     
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  10. funkyfreakmalik

    funkyfreakmalik The mystery continues VIP

    There's a pretty low chance that in a picture of a drawing on a table there's a mirror that is reflecting your address and alot of people on the server do digital art
     
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  11. GemTheGerbil

    GemTheGerbil Tasty Rodent lover VIP Helper

    There is just a chance of anything- even if it’s not that exact situation it could definitely be something else. (I do get what you mean though :))
     
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  12. ShadedSkullGirl

    ShadedSkullGirl Artistic Tendencies VIP

    right, and for the digital art thing, i do it on my ipad, and it shows the date/time, but i post it way later after so it dose not matter, but sometimes i think it shows the place sometimes 2
     
  13. stormfly8

    stormfly8 Professional Fang Girl VIP

    I 100% respect everyone's opinions, and however the mods decide to handle this, we should all respect their descisions. A lot of people are making really good points! Here's some more of my view on it :

    Faces/Pets :

    Like Sonic said, make sure that you are the only one in the photo. Other players can post pictures on their own terms. :) I think this can be a tiny bit of a gray area, though. Some players are siblings, and like to post pictures together. I'm not sure exactly where I stand on this one, but it makes sense to me that there can be a lot of safety hazards. If we allow players to show their faces and pets again, here's some rules I think we should enforce :

    Quadruple check all your photos! Is that a credit card number in the mirror? An address reflecting off of a car? Someone else in the background? A street sign?
    Make sure that there is no personal information in your photos! This goes for art and pets, as well. :)

    Be safe! Are you posting art? Make sure that your signature is blocked out! I think signing your in-game-name should be fine, but stray away from anything that can lead anyone to finding out who you really are. :) For safety, also make sure that there are no last names! Some players have chosen to share their first names, which is totally okay, according to the rules! But last names are a big no! Knowing someone's first and last name gives you a lot more information than you might think! As for digital art, make sure the location is not shown. An easy way to prevent that kind of thing from happening is to snip the image. That's how I always posted art before. If you have any questions about how to snip an image and upload it, feel free to message me! :)
     
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  14. ShadedSkullGirl

    ShadedSkullGirl Artistic Tendencies VIP

    i agree with all of that, like, i do digital art mostly, and for normal art. like once i posted a pick that on the paper had my name. but i made sure that it was not in the pic at all i cut that part of the paper out of it, so i cut out like, half of the page (my parents would be pretty mad me if the found out i told every one on hear my name, and i would prob delete that post right away if it did have my name)[​IMG]
     
  15. Paw_English

    Paw_English OG Trendsetter VIP

    Like @GemTheGerbil said, there is still a chance for it. And there is definitely a chance you accidentally could sign your full initials out. On most of my artwork, I sign my full name in cursive (unless if I posted it).
     
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  16. ShadedSkullGirl

    ShadedSkullGirl Artistic Tendencies VIP

    r we aloud to make skins for others?
     
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  17. LifeLearner

    LifeLearner Homesteader in Training Moderator VIP Elder

    Yes, you may make skins.

    You may not give the link. You should be able to post the skin on a Sandlot forum thread and the player can pick up the skin from that thread.

    Rule 1: Be Safe
    Do not share names of or links to any social media platforms or websites.

    We have this rule so that our players don't send young children looking on the internet for sites without the parents' permission.
     
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  18. ShadedSkullGirl

    ShadedSkullGirl Artistic Tendencies VIP

    ok, but what should i do if i make someone a skin they want to use? (i dont really understand how someone can pick up the skin form the thread)
     
  19. _Onion

    _Onion Farm Fresh Onions! VIP Helper

    You can save the skin to your computer and upload the skin file as an image to the post. Then, that player can upload the skin file directly into the mojang skin creator.
     
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  20. stormfly8

    stormfly8 Professional Fang Girl VIP

    I know that on one site there's a section where you can download the .png file of the skin. If you import the full image, other players can download it from sandlot and upload it to minecraft.net
    What I usually do is, if it's digital, sign "stormy," because that's only tied to my Sandlot persona. If not, I just don't sign it at all. I try to only post current art, so I take the picture for Sandlot before I sign it. ;)
     
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